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Post Posted: 02:12pm - Mar 1,14 
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Just because it is a aluminum boat does not mean parts can not rot out
This is what's involved in replacing the transom board on a Lund Barron 21'
First you have to remove the motors and the top cap some rivets must be drilled out
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Then you need to remove splash well boxes to gain access to the top of the bad board
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Wood don't look to bad but it is all delaminates and so soft a screw driver easily is pushed down into it
This one is probably not going to cone out in one piece

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Will post more pictures as we go along

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Post Posted: 04:34pm - Mar 1,14 
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My prediction is it will be better than new upon completion well done!!!

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Post Posted: 07:35pm - Mar 1,14 
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Been there, done that! Have fun.
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Post Posted: 11:11am - Mar 2,14 
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This is a great post, cant wait to see the finished project and the process. My question to honda cat is:Do they sell composite transoms for aluminum boats as my understanding is that a product like seacast can only be used in a fiberglass sealed transom type boat. Or is wood sealed in epoxy just as good?

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Post Posted: 03:23pm - Mar 2,14 
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You can use Seacast if you can enclose the transom cavity. On my Lund and that Barron the bottom of the transom cavity is open and you would need to seal off the bottom before you can pour. I found that it was easier and cheaper to go with the marine plywood.

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Post Posted: 04:50pm - Mar 2,14 
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There are other materials but considering the original wood survived over 20 years the additional cost usually isn't warranted. Usually the transoms go bad because of improperly sealed or breaking down sealant so if you stay on top of it and reseal your screw and bolt holes every 5-10 years it will last even longer than that.

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Post Posted: 06:02pm - Mar 2,14 
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Thanks for the info, can't wait to see how the rest of this goes

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Post Posted: 09:57am - Mar 5,14 
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Wood is good to dampen vibrations, once cut to size I would give it good epoxy bath, soak it. Looks like water penetration and freezing took a toll, delamination allowed more moisture in between and rot all the way to the top. Sure looks like a big job but I agree, it would be better than new when done.

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Post Posted: 04:11am - Apr 21,14 
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Because I was accused of picking on lunds because I sell Hewescraft and they use nothing but heavy gauge aluminum in their transoms
I kind of changed the name of this thread / started a new one
BAD TRANSON TIME TO SCRAP THE BOAT MAYBE MAYBENOT
Any way here is a picture of the transom with the motors back on
Any one that want to see more detail check with the other post
And remember its not a just problem exclusive to LUND boats
Starcraft alumna craft crest liner to name just a few that use some kind of coring in their transoms all have the potential of having these problems
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Post Posted: 08:10am - Aug 22,14 
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had more than a couple guys calling and asking about
"what about the floor "

should have taken more pictures of the floor I guess
and as I have told those who called the odds of having a couple bad spots in the floor and having nothing wrong with the transom of the same boat are very poor odds at best
we cut this floor from grade a marine plywood and sealed it with west system two parts epoxy then wrapped it in hewes craft heavy vinyl
NO MORE CARPET
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Post Posted: 05:47am - Sep 13,14 
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NON INVASIVE PRELIMINARY TRANSOM INSPECTIONS
BY APPOINTMENT ARE
FREE
Estimates that require disassembly removal of items are charges at shop
Labor rate
We also pull and store motor for guys with the ability to do some of the work them selfs
Please call for more details ask for frank
NOTE
We do not automatically look at every transom that comes into our shop
We might notice and mention one if we see it's real bad
So please ask of you want yours inspected while it's in our shop
In many cases after the metal or fiberglass is cracking and tearing it more than doubles the repair costs
Catch it early might save some big money
be safe we have the proper equipment to pull motors don't try any thing that might get you hurt
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Post Posted: 06:45am - Sep 13,14 
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Those sure look like some strong forklifts you use but I used an engine hoist when I replaced my transom.

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Post Posted: 02:58pm - Sep 13,14 
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Bulldawg wrote:
Those sure look like some strong forklifts you use but I used an engine hoist when I replaced my transom.

thanks bulldog
the fork lift is a 1985 caterpillar dp50
and a Vietnam veteran 1962 pettibone model 15 rough terrain crane
over kill for pulling motors for sure but it makes the job fast and easy
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Post Posted: 06:52pm - Dec 22,14 
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since we only do a few of these each winter and can not do all of them that guys want done
I encourage the guys that have the ability to do this kind of work for them self
recently a couple guy have tried and during the process of making the transom while curing the transom board have warped on them bad enough they could not get them into the boats
though I should follow up with some pictures of the actual gluing process we use that eliminates this potential problem
also we use west system epoxy sealer adhesive tends to warp less than fiberglass resign
never use any woods treated with copper oxide (green wood) the copper oxide with react with the aluminum hull and rot holes in it FAST often marine plywood decking is treated with copper oxide
we leave the plywood clamped to these large steel tubing for one week in a warm environment
( needs to dry/cure completely) before we remove it and seal the sides and corners with the epoxy sealer let it dry for another week then install it
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