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Post Posted: 01:26pm - Mar 18,05 
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Got the new boat and Although I've been onn the Chain many times, it was never on my own boat. I know there are some special conditions for the Chain and the CG patrols it religiously, so what do I need to be legal?

Do I need a distress signal kit?
I know I need an oar(or 2)
I know I need PFD's for everybody in the boat and at least one throwable.
Lastily, I know I need the Chain Sticker...I'm talking CG stuff here...

What am I missing...?
Fire Extinguisher...etc...etc...
Pond

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Post Posted: 02:08pm - Mar 18,05 
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fire extinguisher, some sort of sound producing device...[whistle], lights for after dark, I think thats it, I dont think the flares are needed on inland lakes, just Lake Michigan...

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Post Posted: 02:18pm - Mar 18,05 
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That was one of my big questions...about the flares...

I took the Power Squadron course for my previous boat, a 26' sailboat. My father and I have switched gears a bit...17' Lund. :wink: So I'm kinda unfamiliar with any regulation differences.

thanks for the info.
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Post Posted: 02:39pm - Mar 18,05 
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A life jacket for everyone on board, as well as one throwable.
Also, your boat regestration.

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Post Posted: 02:51pm - Mar 18,05 
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dont forget that batteries must be in a battery box and secured to the floor.
I also looked up this

http://www.uscgboating.org/safety/vsc.htm
there is an online safety check

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Post Posted: 03:01pm - Mar 18,05 
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To my understanding, a boat over 16' needs flares. Like Jay said, I don't know if this pertains to inland waters.

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Post Posted: 03:05pm - Mar 18,05 
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I know what the regs are for coastal and GL waters...I can't seem to find INLAND regs...THAT MAKE SENSE!

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Post Posted: 03:06pm - Mar 18,05 
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Grent,
I took that 'test', but I'm still unsure whether I need VISUAL distress signals on my 17'er for INLAND waters...Ugh!

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Post Posted: 03:08pm - Mar 18,05 
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Try this

http://www.orionsignals.com/Marine/QandP/safetychecklist.html

I'm going to get some sort of signaling light this year for my boat, never been asked about one when I've been checked but I would hate to lose ALL power and get hit by some idiot.
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Post Posted: 03:16pm - Mar 18,05 
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So I do need them.....CRAP!

THanks Brent...
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Post Posted: 06:10pm - Mar 18,05 
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Jason,

When you buy flares check the dates on them. They are manufacture to last about 3 to 3.5 years. Some stores have old stock and may only be two years left in them. Better safe then buying another set in 2 years

PS Don't set off old arial flares during the fourth of July. Even if you are in rural northern Wisconsin, they still draw attention.

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Post Posted: 10:44pm - Mar 19,05 
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I lived on the Chain for 5 years. And when they check, you do need a visual signal device. You do need an oar. And dont forget you need to check the age for children, If I,m not mistaken any passenger 13 and under has to wear a life vest while the boat is under power/moving. But I'm not totally sure of the specifics on this because my son was older then the age at the time it was passed. Only way your really going to know all the current rules is to take the USCG boater safety class, or pay the fine when you get checked.....and they do have safety checks!!!

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Post Posted: 11:51pm - Mar 19,05 
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makes sure that the battery is not only fastened down, but there is a lid covering it too, and I believe there has to be an outer casing, I know my dad has em. But, as far as the flares, and the oars, never had em, probably never will get them. I dont recomend you listening to that part, and doing as we do, but my old man is the most stuburn SOB that you will meet. He will even run from the DNR on lake wisconsin when they got the smaller boat out there, and he is near the river. I also dont recomend that either, escpecially if you dont know the area well.

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Post Posted: 01:16am - Mar 20,05 
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I talked to a DNR guy at the Bass Pro show and he wasn't able to tell me anywhere I could get the regs. On-line or in a brochure. He gave me a post card I could send in requesting they make that info available. He said he hasn't even seen the regs in about 3 or 4 years.

Just ridiculous.

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Post Posted: 09:31am - Mar 20,05 
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SAVVY 18; Here you go

State regulations:

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?DocName=062500450HArt%2E+IV&ActID=1826&ChapAct=625%26nbsp%3BILCS%26nbsp%3B45%2F&ChapterID=49&ChapterName=VEHICLES&SectionID=60159&SeqStart=13900&SeqEnd=16000&ActName=Boat+Registration+and+Safety+Act%2E

Coast Guard Auxilliary Checklist:

You can use this page to examine your own boat. We suggest you print the form that we use to also use as a guide while performing this self-inspection. You can get the form here and it requires that you have the free Adobe Acrobat reader installed on your computer. If you do not have the reader, you can download a copy from here: Adobe Acrobat Reader.
After you have completed the self-examination, you can request that one of our examiners perform an actual Vessel Safety Check by going to the " I Want a VSC" page at http://SafetySeal.net/GetVSC/ and enter your ZIP Code to contact an examiner near you.

Item 1 - Display of Numbers:

The boat’s registration number must be permanently attached to each side of the forward half of the boat They must be plain, vertical, block characters, not less than three (3) inches high, and in a color contrasting with the background. A space or hyphen must separate the letters from the numbers. Place State tax sticker according to State policy.

(e.g. FL 1234 AB or FL-1234-AB)

Item 2 - Registration / Documentation:

Registration or Documentation papers must be on board and available. Documentation numbers must be permanently marked on a visible part of the interior structure. The documented boat’s name and hailing port must be displayed on the exterior hull in letters not less than 4 inches in height. To be documented a boat must be 5 net tons or greater.

Item 3 - Personal Flotation Devices (PFD):

Acceptable PFDs (also known as Life Jackets) must be U.S. Coast Guard approved, in good serviceable condition, and of suitable size for the each person on the boat. Children must have properly fitted PFDs designed for children. Wearable PFDs shall be "readily accessible." Throwable devices shall be "immediately available." PFDs shall NOT be stored in unopened plastic packaging. For Personal Watercraft riders, the PFD must be worn and indicate an impact rating. Boats 16 Feet or longer, must also have one Type IV.





Item 4 - Visual Distress Signals (VDS):

Recreational boats 16 feet and over used on coastal waters or the Great Lakes are required to carry a minimum of either 1) three day and three night pyrotechnic devices, 2) one day non-pyrotechnic device (flag) and one night non-pyrotechnic device (auto SOS light) or 3) a combination of 1) and 2). Recreational boats less than 16 feet on coastal waters or the Great Lakes need only carry night visual distress signals when operating from sunset to sunrise.

It is recommended, but not required, that boats operating on inland waters should have some means of making a suitable day and night distress signal. The number and type of signals is best judged by considering conditions under which the boat will be operating. Alternatives to pyrotechnic devices (flares) include:

Night Day
Strobe light Signal mirror
Flashlight Red or orange flags
Lantern Hand signals

Item 5 - Fire Extinguishers:

Fire extinguishers are required if one of the following conditions exists: (1) Inboard engine(s); (2) Closed compartments that store portable fuel tanks; (3) Double bottom hulls not completely sealed or not completely filled with flotation materials (4) Closed living space (5) Closed stowage compartments that contain flammable materials or (6) Permanently installed fuel tanks NOTE: Fire extinguishers must be readily accessible and verified as serviceable.

Minimum number of extinguishers required

Boat Length No Fixed System With Fixed System
Less than 26’ one B-1 none
26’ to less than 40’ two B-1 or one B-2 one B-1
40’ to 65’ three B-1 or
one B-1 & one B-2 two B-1 or
one B-2

Item 6 - Ventilation:

Boats with gasoline engines in closed compartments, built after 1 August 1980 must have a powered ventilation system. Those built prior to that date must have natural or powered ventilation.

Boats with closed fuel tank compartments built after 1 August 1978 must meet requirements by displaying a "certificate of compliance." Boats built before that date must have either natural or powered ventilation in the fuel tank compartment.

Item 7 - Backfire Flame Control:

All gasoline powered inboard/outboard or inboard motor boats must be equipped with an approved backfire flame control device.

Item 8 - Sound Producing Devices / Bell:

To comply with Navigation Rules and for distress signaling purposes all boats must carry a sound producing device (whistle, horn, siren, etc.) capable of a 4-second blast audible for ½ mile. Boats larger than 39.4 ft. are also required to have a bell (see Navigation Rules.) Under a recent change, a vessel 12 meters (39.4 ft) to less than 20 meters (65 ft) is no longer required to carry a bell on board. This applies ONLY to those vessels operating in International Waters. International waters for the purposes of the Navigational Rules are those waters seaward of the Line of Demarcation. For those vessels operating in Inland Waters, a bell is STILL REQUIRED.

Item 9 - Navigation Lights:

All boats must be able to display navigation lights between sunset and sunrise and in conditions of reduced visibility. Boats 16 feet or more in length must have properly installed, working navigation lights and an all-around anchor light capable of being lit independently from the red/green/white "running" lights.

Item 10 - Pollution Placard:

Boats 26 feet and over with a machinery compartment must display an oily waste "pollution" placard.

Item 11 - MARPOL Trash Placard:

Boats 26 feet and over in length must display a "MARPOL" trash placard. Boats 40 feet and over must also display a written trash disposal plan.

Item 12 - Marine Sanitation Devices:

Any installed toilet must be a Coast Guard approved device. Overboard discharge outlets must be capable of being sealed.

Item 13 - Navigation Rules:

Boats 39.4 feet and over must have on board a current copy of the Navigation Rules.

Item 14 - State and/ or Local Requirements:

These requirements must be met before the "Vessel Safety Check" decal can be awarded. A boat must meet the requirements of the state in which it is being examined.
Contact your local marine law enforcement agency.
Item 15 - Overall Vessel condition:

As it applies to this Vessel. Including, but not limited to:

a. Deck free of hazards and clean bilge:

The boat must be free from fire hazards, in good overall condition, with bilges reasonably clean and visible hull structure generally sound. The use of automobile parts on boat engines is not acceptable. The engine horsepower must not exceed that shown on the capacity plate.

b. Safe Electrical and Fuel Systems:

The electrical system - Must be protected by fuses or manual reset circuit breakers. Switches and fuse panels must be protected from rain or water spray. Wiring must be in good condition, properly installed and with no exposed areas or deteriorated insulation. Batteries must be secured and terminals covered to prevent accidental arcing.. If installed, self-circling or kill switch mechanism must be in proper working order. All PWCs require an operating self circling or kill switch mechanism.

Fuel Systems - Portable fuel tanks (normally 7 gallon capacity or less) must be constructed of non-breakable material and free of corrosion and leaks. All vents must be capable of being closed. The tank must be secured and have a vapor-tight, leak-proof cap. Each permanent fuel tank must be properly ventilated.

c. Safe Galley and Heating Systems:

System and fuel tanks must be properly secured with no flammable materials nearby.

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